host: what is the role of people like karl rove in shaping the future of the party? guest: it is whatever the industry wanted to be, no doubt about it. he has been a staple in side of the rnc infrastructure since his days as a college republican in the basement of the building. he is a great tactician, there is no doubt. but what i hear there is that even he recognizes that there has to be a transition now and that some of the old strategies, even the ones that he implemented, have worn out their usefulness and effectiveness in winning elections. the red state blue state model that he created in 2000 is not necessarily the one that is going to win the order of the day. obama changed that in 2004. -- 2012. this generation of 18 to 40 year-old's see the world through less of red and blue and more purple. that is something that we will have to adopt, number one. no. 2, when you are looking at the broader landscape of what he is saying, i would agree, but here is the problem. why not chris christie? when chris christie is not allowed to speak at a national conservative c